Beck's idea too good to have much of a chance
First term Sen. Jennifer Beck of Monmouth County wants politicians convicted of political corruption stripped of retirement benefits no matter when the corruption occurred. A law that went into effect in April of '07 eliminates pension benefits for corruption convictions or guilty pleas for government employees. Beck is sponsoring a bill to amend that law to include all political corruption crimes, not just the ones after the 2007 law took effect. She told the AP, "The Legislature must create a disincentive in order to discourage that small minority who view public service as a business opportunity." If Beck's bill had been law a while it would have gone a long way toward cleaning up this corrupt state because too many of these part-time "public servants" -- as they like to call themselves -- are in it for the perks like the gold-plated pension and health care for life for themselves and the special favors they can deliver to their friends and cronies. Beck's idea makes sense which is why it doesn't have much of a chance in this Legislature where too many people are looking over their shoulders.
Labels: corruption, Jennifer Beck, pension
posted by Bob Ingle at 6:53 AM
27 Comments:
I live in her district. I voted for her, and would do so again. But her claim that a "few" view public service as a business opportunity is skewed, and the truth is closer to the opposite. We don't have a few bad apples in the bunch, we have a few good ones.
What NJ politician in their own twisted mind would vote for this bill................
Here's another good bill that will die in committee. They can't possibly allow this to come to a vote, lest the voting record unmask all the wolves dressed as sheep. Anon 7:57 hit the nail on the head: We have a few good apples in a barrel that's rotten clear through. Nice try, Jen. Better luck next time.
The mere fact that it will not be passed should tell you everything you need to know.
EVERY legislator should vote FOR passage of this bill without question. This is a no brainer. If you were not corrupt why wouldn't you support this bill?
The lack of support condemns them all. Anyone running against any of these PIGS needs no other issue. "My opponent voted no on losing his pension if he/she is caught stealing form the public."
WHY?
Vote for me, I support such reform and I would go even further.
PIGS will never vote to remove the slop they wallow in.
Good idea but with people like Codey and Roberts controlling the "mob" the bill will not see any day light.
Lets face it...almost all of the Trenton Polls have a checkered past.
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This is a perfect opportunity for every registered voter to let their representative know that either they vote for this legislation or you lose my vote in November.
What is the bill name/number?
Codey ,Roberts ,even Corzine will dismiss this bill and say it's partisan politics .Just like the Republicans came up with a alt budget plan for Most of the public will never hear about this bill ,because the R party is so weak in N J it's pathetic
Course, you'd never know it....but elected officials are ALREADY held to a higher legal standard.
That's b/c they hold the power of the purse.
The theory is that weak-willed politicians can be bribed to rig the law to benefit their bribers.
(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)
CASE IN POINT: Sen Harrison Williams went to jail for taking a gift of stock in a titanium mine, whereas ordinary citizens can accept gifts without penalties.
Wrongdoing by pols should also affect their state pensions and other tax-paid emoluments.
It is an article of contract law that a contract that was not negotiated in good faith is null and void.
We need to enforce existing laws.
Judging by their egregious behavior, it is clear NJ pols think they are above the law.
Does this mean the Sharpe James will lose his pension?
They will approve this bill about the same time they agree to term limits...ain't never going to happen.
The mob writes the laws, owns the AG's office and the judges/courts and they aren't about to change that.
Next somebody will be silly enough to suggest that these thieves should represent the people and we know they could care less as long as they are stuffing their own pockets.
How is it that by the time everyone of them leaves office they are millionaires when their salary is leass than $100k? Let's think.
This bill might pass but it will be so full of holes that no-one will ever be charged (accept someone they want to get rid of).
Also, don't forget the pols made corruption legal in NJ (for themselves, not you and me) - so no bill will help.
9:59
I believe he will lose the pension earned as mayor of Newark during the time of the crime not for the full term of 20+ years. He keeps his pension as state senator and also from Essex County Community College. All the while his wife works for the state at a salary of $125,000 a year so I'm sure they'll survive. If money gets tough he can always sell one of his yaughts or his Rolls Royce. He's only 72, his mother is still around at 94 so he's got plenty of time to enjoy his taxpayer funded pensions.
Oh yea, this will be posted and passed by both houses of the legislature right after term limits!
I predict that if it would reach it all the way to a vote, 95% of the legislature would site that it just doesn't go far enough as an explanation of their negative vote.
New Jersey politics, Ya gotta love it!!!
And let us not forget the cardinal rule with New Jersey Laws...
"What Do I get out of it?"
I think this assemblyperson has a great idea and she should be pushed to continue her job of overseeing this public good.
My money and these false Gods of the Assembly and State Senate. Get these guys thrown out of the pension system so they realize they screwed up. Bryant and James should be put up and hacked down. Becasue of their huge egos. Their attitude that they can get away with anything, because of all the good done in the past.
Just as the President and Governor have term limits, every political office should have the same. This should extend all the way down to mayors and town councils. The taxpayers deserve fresh ideas from new people and while it wouldn't eliminate corruption it would limit the period of opportunity. Those under the gold dome have lost all touch with the people they are supposed to be representing. It's sad to be governed by those you can not put your faith in or even trust.
"Just as the President and Governor have term limits,"
Thank God
Now you can use the term, " this bill will pass when pigs fly".
It is the type of bill the people and the state need, but the politicians "in general" don't, and they are the ones who control the whole process.
The electorate should demand this type of legislation but as a general rule the voters are uninformed, apathetic, or just plain stupid.
Most people don't even know who their representatives are let alone what position they take on these type of issues. and there in a nutshell lies the problem.
TB
This bill probably won't pass, but Bob, don't let this one drop. Get the bill number out there so that we can solicit our reps on where they stand on it. Get your newpaper folks to start collecting some support/non-support straw-vote numbers and publish quotes from our "reps" in Trenton to see whether they have the guts to put their thoughts in writing. As one of the other posters suggested, this would be a great campaign issue, and it would be interesting to see whether and how they weasel their way out of supporting it.
If this bill were proposed by a democrat, it would have a "snowball's chance in Miami" of passing.
It's proposed by a republican, so it has a snowball's chance in hell.
Pass?!?!?!?!
This bill will never come to a vote.
Dick Codey decides which bills get to committee and the floor for votes.
Wouldn't it be nice if these people had a sense of shame?
RECESSION ??WHAT RECESSION ..Governor Jon Corzine gave state workers a salary package that will provide the average employee with a 35 percent increase in salary over the next four years - 13.6 percent in wage scale increases, the balance in incremental salary increases.Life is good
Nothing like going to a democratic event and seeing a room full of democrats give a standing ovation to someone who just went to jail.
You gotta love it.
NJ Attorney General ticketed for speeding
August 4, 2008
TRENTON, N.J. - New Jersey's top law enforcement officer will soon have a blemish on her driving record. Attorney General Anne Milgram was ticketed for speeding Friday. Milgram was driving her 1994 Honda Accord on Route 1 South when she was clocked at 69 mph in a 50 mph zone. She was pulled over in North Brunswick. Milgram said she plans to pay the $176 fine. She'll also receive four points against her license. "I made a mistake and know what I did was wrong. I take responsibility for driving too fast," she said in a statement issued by her office
OF COURSE SHE "TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT". WHAT A NOBLE THING TO SAY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT SHE WAS THE ONE DRIVING THE CAR. I GUESS SHE REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED TO ZOOM ZOOM WHEN SHE ZOOMED HER WAY RIGHT OUT OF OFFICE...
"Nothing like going to a democratic event and seeing a room full of democrats give a standing ovation to someone who just went to jail"
NOW THAT'S FUNNY.....
"Nothing like going to a Democratic event and seeing a room full of Democrats give a standing ovation to someone who just went to jail."
Another example of the "Cultural Revolution" wrought by The Machine.
Forget everything you ever knew about living in a free country.
Get ready----tanks will soon be rolling in the streets to crush anyone who dares to resist.
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